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| dmccall | Connectedness is More than School Climate | 0 | Sep 9 2009, 11:02 AM EDT by dmccall | ||||
| Thread started:Sep 9 2009, 11:02 AM EDT Watch Standard 12 equates a positive school climate with "connectedness" with school, positioning this as an antidote for drug use and other negative behaviours. I have already made the point about how facile this can get but would like to point out that improving the connection between school and student is more than just creating a positive school climate. The connections need to be strengthened by specific policies, programs and supports. These include peer helper programs, parent education programs, mentoring programs, behaviour monitoring & adjustment programs such as EBS, comprehensive guidance programs, alternatives to suspension programs and more. Please note that these programs usually involve support from other agencies and don't simply leave it to the school staff. It is surprising that the standards don't point to these concrete ways in which the connection to the school can be strengthened. The CDC has developed these ideas and described programs in its paper on connectedness (http://www.cdc.gov/HealthyYouth/AdolescentHealth/pdf/connectedness.pdf). However be sure to read the paper, not just the summary. In my opinion, the summary points that CDC provides get too close to simply telling teachers that they need to care more about kids and do a better job. | |||||||
| dmccall | Cite program examples when explaining better practices (eg CAMH, CASH) | 0 | Sep 9 2009, 10:38 AM EDT by dmccall | ||||
| Thread started:Sep 9 2009, 10:38 AM EDT Watch The description of the standards is good but rarely gets past the general idea. The CCSA standards should emulate the CAMH guidelines on mental health (http://www.camh.net/About_CAMH/Health_Promotion/Community_Health_Promotion/Best_Practice_MHYouth/index.html#guidelines). The CAMH guidelines make a general point but then point to and link with evaluated programs that implement that principle. We have tried to do the same in our listing of evaluated, existing programs in our toolbox (http://shtoolbox-substanceabuse.wetpaint.com/). In that toolbox we have listed over 100 programs that have been evaluated, identified or developed by credible organizations. I realize that CCSA is also creating a database of local programs as part of this project but unless those programs are conveniently linked as suggested, then you force the reader to go looking and perhaps use the wrong search words or not bother. | |||||||
| Anonymous | Drop the Expert Review idea pay for UNB survey in school | 0 | Sep 1 2009, 6:52 PM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
| | Thread started:Sep 1 2009, 6:52 PM EDT Watch Rather than expecting schools to do a complicated external review or spend hours trying to fill in a workbook, CCSA should simply fund the UNB survey called "Tell them for Me". The online survey gives schools ongoing feedback on the concerns of their students and would be a great value to schools. This would be far better than the academic make work project suggested in the current document. | ||||||
| Anonymous | Apply Michael Fullan to this issue | 0 | Sep 1 2009, 6:44 PM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
| | Thread started:Sep 1 2009, 6:44 PM EDT Watch These 18 statementsneed to be applied at all levels in the school system, and health system. Take a look at Michael Fullan's work on tri-level change and then apply it to this set of standards. | ||||||
| Anonymous | More tools, less general advice | 0 | Aug 27 2009, 10:42 AM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
| | Thread started:Aug 27 2009, 10:42 AM EDT Watch All htis general advice about program evaluation is fine. (We have seen it before). What we need are practical tools to do it with. I just found a CDC curriculum assessment tool on drugs that is great. The standards need to point us to those kinds of resources, not do a lecture on program evaluation. | ||||||
| Anonymous | Go read about school dropouts before telling schools about drugs | 0 | Aug 27 2009, 10:30 AM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
| | Thread started:Aug 27 2009, 10:30 AM EDT Watch All the stuff about school climate and connectedness has been said before. The school dropout literature has been around for years. Most ministries have issued student conduct policies and done dropout prevention programs for years. The drugs people don't need to repeat all that. | ||||||
| Anonymous | Curriculum is not designed by schools - go tell the ministries | 0 | Aug 27 2009, 10:27 AM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
| | Thread started:Aug 27 2009, 10:27 AM EDT Watch This document seems to be aimed at schools but it has a lot of comments about curriculum. If CCSA was to revise curriculum, it should go talk with the education ministry | ||||||
| Anonymous | Where are the program examples? | 0 | Aug 27 2009, 10:24 AM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
| | Thread started:Aug 27 2009, 10:24 AM EDT Watch The descriptions of the standards are all fine but way too general for any use by schools. For example, the Effective Behavior Support program is used by a lot of schools to deal with trobled students. Educators don't need to be told the school climate and connectedness are important. What they need are proven example programs that they can adapt and implement. The CASH web site has a lot of good programs. It should be integrated with the standards. | ||||||
| Anonymous | Add examples and resources to each section of the workbook | 0 | Aug 21 2009, 9:31 AM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
| | Thread started:Aug 21 2009, 9:31 AM EDT Watch It would be helpful if the different sections of the workbook could be linked to examples of programs and resources to help implement that idea | ||||||
| Anonymous | Dumping the problem on teachers | 1 | Aug 12 2009, 3:22 PM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
| | Thread started:Jul 8 2009, 4:22 PM EDT Watch (Comment: This sentence shows the real philosophy of this document, the poor souls who work in schools are responsible for preventing substance abuse. It is not parents, not the police, not the community...just teachers) "While support and advice may be drawn from different sectors, it is ultimately staff and students who will bring positive change to the school community. Viewed this way, the best results occur when schools not only refer to research on good practices but also take the time to reflect on and interpret how these apply to their situation." Show Last Reply
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| Anonymous | Purpose of Standards is Unclear | 2 | Jul 17 2009, 6:37 PM EDT by dmccall | ||||
| | Thread started:Jun 23 2009, 11:27 AM EDT Watch Currently, the document attempts to both a school workbook and a set of evidenced-based guidelines and it gets quite confused in trying to take on these two challenges. Show Last Reply
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| dmccall | Revised Approach to Workbook is Needed | 1 | Jul 17 2009, 1:09 PM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
| Thread started:Jul 10 2009, 10:50 AM EDT Watch The approach to the workbook section is quite muddled. Almost all of the suggested processes are well beyond the time available to local schools to do self-evaluation. Indeed the questions are more suited to a local school board, working with a health authority, when they are implementing a program like that in the Vancouver School Board. I suggest CCSA consider choosing one of these three routes to clear up this confusion between what is possible at the school vs the local SH and HA level. One. CCSA could revise the content to aim it clearly at a local inter-agency level. The questions would need to be changed to reflect that level (The SH program in England has an excellent tool that could be adapted. Two. CCSA can change the approach and copy other self-assessment programs used by PREVNET on school safety, UNB on school climate and Waterloo on tobacco, physical activity and nutrition. In these other examples, the university researchers help the school collect data, analyze it and formulate a plan of action. The university researchers engage grad students in the process and get to publish articles, so they provide free expertise. Three. The approach is broadened to an overall health approach. The ASCD self-assessment tool could be used to assess program capacity. The PHAC Voices & Choices program could be used to survey students. Both of these instruments are on-line, have been tested for reliability and can provide comparative reports to schools on a confidential basis. The incentive for schools to participate would be far greater because it would cover all aspects of health, rather than just drugs, thereby reducing potential stigma for the school and broadening interest. These three alternatives would offer a far better and more attractive option to schools The existing school assessments have had some success or the inter-agency assessment would be more manageable for staff at that level. 1 out of 1found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: None (edit keyword tags) Show Last Reply
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| Anonymous | Estimated Three hours for the review is way off | 0 | Jul 8 2009, 4:29 PM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
| | Thread started:Jul 8 2009, 4:29 PM EDT Watch Comment: The estimate of doing an in-depth review in three hours is way off...each of the questions requires research and collecting data that would take a couple of hours) Plus, the people doing the review have to include much more than teachers in the school. The school will need the help of addictions people to bring the latest stats, etc | ||||||
| dmccall | Whole School Approaches to School Climate May Not Work | 1 | Jul 8 2009, 9:38 AM EDT by dmccall | ||||
| Thread started:Jul 7 2009, 10:09 AM EDT Watch The notion that a "caring school" as described in Standard 12 in the CCSA can alleviate addiction problems is alluring but may be problematic. It may be a weak cornerstone for the CCSA standards. This desire to find a new way to connect students more firmly to their schools has been pursued by school dropout prevention experts for years and is currently now part of the mental health movement as well. However, the "safe & caring schools" movement is very cautious about placing too many eggs in this basket. Researchers in PREVNET have questioned this social climate approach (Smith, J. D. , Schneider, B. H., Smith, P. K., & Ananiadou, K. (2004). The effectiveness of whole-school antibullying programs: A synthesis of evaluation research. School Psychology Review, 33 , 548-561). As well, recent research in mental health (Herman et al, 2008, )is suggesting depression in Grade Seven students can be predicted as early as Grade One, when students first begin to experience academic problems in school. A recent study done in France(Didier et al, in press) correlated and weighted the factors that affect student perceptions of the social climate in their schools. Teacher behaviours accounted for 7% of the variation and school type/organization affected 1%. The vast majority of the influence on student perceptions was due to social determinants that are structural in nature and embedded in the social roles played by schools. Also, the early results a somewhat disappointing but very credible study of the "good and healthy school" in Germany (Paulus et al, in press) is showing null effect on student or parent perceptions of the school climate (but is having an effect on teacher perceptions) Connecting troubled students more with their schools may be better achieved through different interventions than simply whole school climate approaches.(eg mentoring, peer helper, counselling, tareget after school programs.. Show Last Reply
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| Anonymous | Odd Understanding of Social Determinants | 0 | Jun 25 2009, 10:54 AM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
| | Thread started:Jun 25 2009, 10:54 AM EDT Watch The phrase "less access to social determinats" is quite off. First, everyone is affected by various social determinants. (eg we all have ethnic backgrounds, not just the minorities) Just for some people those determinants are more positive than others (wealth, race, gender etc) Second, the way that SD's are explained in that paragraph implies that they are only economicin nature. Most definitions of SD's include all of the factors discussed in this section, including economic status, gender, race, early childhood experiences, personal skills and practices etc) | ||||||
| Anonymous | Comment of this overall initiative | 0 | Jun 24 2009, 4:21 PM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
| | Thread started:Jun 24 2009, 4:21 PM EDT Watch Given that education is provinically mandated it is not clear why national standards have been developed as many health departments already have existing substance abuse prevention initiatives, some already connected to schools and school boards that may be functioning well already. These guidelines are quite elaborate and require extensive and intensive planning, even if implemented through a team. Schools already are limited by time contraints even with their own educational objectives and this "resource" is another time consuming exercise. There are a lot of valuable insights and recommendations in this document, that may be able to be adopted into municipal and possibly school programs already in existence, but it is difficult to see these this guidelines being adopted in their complete form given the limitations and restrictions already mentioned. Finally, many schools have wellness initiatives that may or may not be comprehensive but that fulfil many requirement for prevention on a number of mental and physical health related issues. Other schools that may not have specific initiatives may still have an abundance of activities ranging from sports and clubs to skill and asset building that could also be considered health promotion activities. Why reinvent health promotion for substance use with specific guidelines when schools have already done a good job offering some practical tool and activities already? 0 out of 1found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: None (edit keyword tags) | ||||||
| Anonymous | Curriculum Design is not the Issue: Implementation is | 0 | Jun 24 2009, 10:51 AM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
| | Thread started:Jun 24 2009, 10:51 AM EDT Watch The wording of Standard 13 (classroom instruction) suggests that current education curricula are not organized sequentially around life/decision skills. In fact, all PT are organized this way, at least in their structure and presentation). The CCSA document also suggests a "constructivist learning approach". Both of these standards apparently do not recognize the reality that education ministries have designed curricula around such concepts for at least two decades and education ministries have long since recommended "active", "experiential", "cooperative" and "project-based" learning strategies to implement their curricula. As well, the types of instructional strategies recommended in this section are equally not new, scenarios, brainstorming, small group discussion, etc have been recommended by ministries for years as well. (PS The CCSA document misses a few other strategies that are often recommended by education ministries. These include student health journals, webquests, and rubrics to evaluate student progress). In summary, it behoves CCSA not to be seen to be lecturing education authorities and professionals on curriculum desighn and effective teaching methods. The challenge with all of these ideas is that of implementation, not intent or design. Instead, the document should identify and discuss the barriers to such a goal and discuss ways for ministries, school boards and schools to overcome those barriers. These include: - The practice of many health ministries to produce specific curriculum supplements that focus on health issues such as crystal meth enticing teachers to use their pre-packaged lesson plans that eat up curriculum time on generic skills ) - The inadvertent collusion between medical experts who want to convey facts about an issue (eg all that detail about specific drugs) and teachers who are more comfortable teaching facts rather than developing skills/values | ||||||
| dmccall | Misunderstanding of CSH/HPS Approach | 0 | Jun 24 2009, 10:35 AM EDT by dmccall | ||||
| Thread started:Jun 24 2009, 10:35 AM EDT Watch Section D which explains the comprehensive approach (Standards 12-16) includes four types of "initiatives". These include a positive school climate (established by school policies and student-teacher relationships), classroom instruction, targeted activities (established by the school) within a comprehensive continuum and relevant policies. While these four things are good, they fail to capture the standard understanding of comprehensive approaches, coordinated SH programs and whole school strategies used in most statements and definitions of school health promotion. (References to health services (early identification, referral, preventive, treatment coordinated with IEP's for individual students, reintegration etc) and physical environment (safe places in schools, lighting, security measures etc). The essential part of a comprehensive, coordinated or whole school approach is that there are multiple, coordinated interventions delivered by several agencies within or in cooperation with the school. The CCSA standards document should list all of the possible interventions clearly and then describe how they can be developed, implemented and coordinated. The current draft contains only a partial list. | |||||||
| dmccall | Outdated and Inappropriate WHO Model of HPS | 0 | Jun 23 2009, 10:24 PM EDT by dmccall | ||||
| Thread started:Jun 23 2009, 10:24 PM EDT Watch The document is using a somewhat dated WHO framework for Health Promoting Schools that places the burden and attention on the school and the front-line workers. If CCSA wanted to use an international model for this document, it should use the 2007 WHO statement on HPS that was developed in a consensus statement in 2007. (Please see the sub-page that I have created to expand on this point.) | |||||||
| Anonymous | Too Focused on Drugs | 0 | Jun 23 2009, 10:00 PM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
| | Thread started:Jun 23 2009, 10:00 PM EDT Watch This is so focussed on drugs it could be broadened...although maybe you are attempting to only address those issues... | ||||||
| dmccall | Misunderstanding of HPS and CSH Approaches | 0 | Jun 23 2009, 9:47 PM EDT by dmccall | ||||
| Thread started:Jun 23 2009, 9:47 PM EDT Watch This page begins several subsequent sections which misrepresent "comprehensive" or "whole school" approaches. The explanation provided on this page contradicts the WHO definition of Health Promoting Schools (which is outdated and a newer version is available). Further, one of the problems with the use of the term "whole school" approaches (now recognized by experts and advocates around the world is that it implies action is primarily taken at the school level, by educators alone or with minimal assistance (usually guidance and technical expertise only) from personnel from other agencies. I will note this fundamental misunderstanding with other comments on other sections. | |||||||
| Anonymous | Burden on Schools | 0 | Jun 23 2009, 9:35 PM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
| | Thread started:Jun 23 2009, 9:35 PM EDT Watch Despite its claims to the contrary, the document places almost the entire burden of prevention on educators, indeed, it places that burden on the front line of educators, those who work in local schools. I went through the document with this in mind and found over 70 references to "schools, over 25 references to "teachers/staff", over 10 references to school administrators. However, I found only 4 references to community agencies. I found no references whatsoever about public health nurses, no references whatsoever to addictions agency workers, no references whatsoever to social workers, no references to police officers, no references to health authorities, no references to municipalities, no references to addictions or mental health agencies and clinic policies/procedures/practices . | ||||||
| Anonymous | Blaming educators | 1 | Jun 23 2009, 11:12 AM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
| | Thread started:Jun 23 2009, 11:07 AM EDT Watch There are many references throughout the document that hold educators responsibile for student drug problems but this one takes the cake. It appears a few paragraphs about #15 and states " Hazardous alcohol use is common in Canadian high schools, yet most students will not be exposed to course-level attention to alcohol use topics." The role and responsibilities of educators are described over and over again in the document but parents, health agencies and others are mentioned only a few times. And, what about parents? The students are their children after all. Show Last Reply
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